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mmmna . . . .

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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2025 3:33 am Post subject: Blocking unwanted MAC addresses on Linksys WRT54GS |
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I am not very good at ANY networking, and this seems to be the most secure way to block unwanted Wireless network use.
It works for me: nobody within a quarter mile can get into my wireless network. Okay, that's probably because there *IS* nobody within that quarter mile... but if they get close enough, I've already locked the screen door shut, using a thumbtack; I'm S-A-F-E!
Here is what I do.
I get a list of ALL MAC addresses in range of the Linksys WRT54GS
IF you already know the friendly MAC address, skip to step B]
A] To get the MAC address of the wireless NIC, just let everyone surf
open the wireless router administration webpage
click wireless
click wireless MAC filter
click disable
click Save Settings button.
Now everyone that is in range can get in.
And if there are PCs in range that are running XP, they will likely get a popup telling them the news that a new wireless is available, so be quick about the following steps!
Next, look at who is seen on the wireless router:
open the wireless router administration webpage
click status
click Local Network
click DHCP Clients Table button
You should get a table that looks roughly like the following:
Code: | DHCP Server IP Address: 192.168.1.1
Client Host Name IP Address MAC Address Expires
Owner-PC1 192.168.1.105 00:00:00:00:00:00 23:57:21
Owner-PC2 192.168.1.100 00:00:00:00:00:00 23:41:18 |
Once you know which pc has which MAC, you can reclose the network.
B] open the wireless router administration webpage
click wireless
click wireless MAC filter
click enable
click permit only PCs listed to access the wireless network
click edit MAC filter list
and enter the discovered MAC address
click Save Settings button
when you get the screen that says Settings are successful.
click continue
close the MAC Address Filter List window.
and click the Save Settings button.
Feel safer now?
Well, it works for me. :shrugs shoulders: 
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tlmiller Ultimate Member

Joined: 01 May 2025 Posts: 2434 Location: MD, USA
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2025 3:38 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I used to use that for my network. Different router though.
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lberg Sr. Member

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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2025 4:00 am Post subject: |
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I use that on my home network. Sometimes it's a pain when one of my friends/cousins comes over with a laptop and wants to get on wireless, then I have to go into the router conf and "let them in."
The main reason I use MAC whitelisting is because I don't want to go to the trouble of getting wpa2 working with Linux, as my Arch box is wireless. Right now, I'm just using WEP (for ease of use with Linux), so I am adding as many other security things as I can to help compensate for lack of password security One other measure I use is I have the broadcasting power on my router on setting 2 out of 10. Previously, it was on 1/10, but in distant corners of the house the signal got to be pretty weak with my iBook, as some pages would time out when I had three or 4 walls between the iBook and the router. Upping the signal one notch seemed to make pages load quite a bit faster.
...But I don't live in a town where hackers are common, and I definitely don't have any neighbors that would try hacking on to my network... and there are never any random cars parked outside my house hahaha... 
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mmmna . . . .

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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2025 4:16 am Post subject: |
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lberg wrote: | One other measure I use is I have the broadcasting power on my router on setting 2 out of 10. Previously, it was on 1/10, but in distant corners of the house the signal got to be pretty weak with my iBook, as some pages would time out when I had three or 4 walls between the iBook and the router. Upping the signal one notch seemed to make pages load quite a bit faster. | Which brand is yours? I don't recall seeing such tools on my linksys.
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tlmiller Ultimate Member

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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2025 4:26 am Post subject: |
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I use WPA (not 2) and it works AMAZINGLY well in both Arch, sidux, PCLOS, and Mepis. Still secure enough for me, no need to migrate to 2 yet.
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JP Linux Guru

Joined: 07 Jul 2025 Posts: 6670 Location: Central Montana
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2025 4:28 am Post subject: |
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Thanks mmmna, I have one of those Linksys routers, I've never been able to use it as a wireless with Linux ..... maybe I'll PM you about it .... so as not to crap this thread.
On the above how-to - - is there any way to tell what mac addresses are NOT friendly, and if you do know them, can you put that mac address into a list of "not invited" macs? What command would be used in Linux? WNDOZ ?
Also, when we first got the router, my son password protected it .... now he can't remember the password ..... we had hoped that just unplugging it from the power from it for 3 or 4 months would erase the password, but that didn't work. Do you know of any way to change the password without knowing the old password? Needless to say, we have to get the password problem taken care of before we can use the how-to . If we can get the password, we can at least get my wife's xp to work wireless. PM me if you'd rather not say publically .
THX.
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tlmiller Ultimate Member

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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2025 4:30 am Post subject: |
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Hitting the hardware reset button doesn't clear it?
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JP Linux Guru

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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2025 4:38 am Post subject: |
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tlmiller wrote: | Hitting the hardware reset button doesn't clear it? |
Nothing cleared it!
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tlmiller Ultimate Member

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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2025 4:48 am Post subject: |
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i know some of the firmwares will clear it when you update them. Did you try that too?
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mmmna . . . .

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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2025 5:03 am Post subject: |
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tlmiller: you update the fw after you login. Chicken and egg.
JP: there is a couple things I know of. 1] there is a hole in the back., gently press that with a straightened paperclip. 2] on the front panel, press the Cisco logo, it is a kind of reset.
Once you get into the admin area by logging in, you can only A] whitelist some MACs, or B] you blacklist some MACs. The action is exclusive. As for uninvited MACs, you'd have to let everyone in before you could get their MAC address, so you take chances for a few moments and discover them by being fully opened for just long enough to copy the MAC addresses. In this case, it seems easier to blacklist (prohibit), but I'm no expert.
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lberg Sr. Member

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tlmiller Ultimate Member

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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2025 5:10 am Post subject: |
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mmmna wrote: | tlmiller: you update the fw after you login. Chicken and egg.
JP: there is a couple things I know of. 1] there is a hole in the back., gently press that with a straightened paperclip. 2] on the front panel, press the Cisco logo, it is a kind of reset.
Once you get into the admin area by logging in, you can only A] whitelist some MACs, or B] you blacklist some MACs. The action is exclusive. As for uninvited MACs, you'd have to let everyone in before you could get their MAC address, so you take chances for a few moments and discover them by being fully opened for just long enough to copy the MAC addresses. In this case, it seems easier to blacklist (prohibit), but I'm no expert. |
Some firmwares you can do a straight TFTP onto the router. While it's not DESIGNED to be used that way, it can be flashed without logging in first.
lberg, yes, I've used WPA on several different cards in Arch, all without a single issue. I use networkmanager to manage all my wifi though, I don't use the wireless profiles that are the default in Arch.
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lberg Sr. Member

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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2025 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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mr_ed wrote: | Someone can spoof your MAC address. |
Yes, they can...Just like they can use freely available programs to crack WEP codes in very little time...
wikipedia wrote: | today a WEP connection can be cracked with readily available software within minutes. |
What about WPA? Is that one becoming less secure also? I've read some internet stuff saying that WPA has been cracked, but I'm not sure.
Personally, I'm not worried about this, though, because like I said, there's not anyone near me who would know enough to even attempt to hack my network.
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