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I have a rather large collection of music and audiobooks (~20k tracks, ~42GB) And i have regular need to rotate the music on my 4GB Ipod nano.
Problem is I can find very little software that can sync with my ipod AND (this is the tricky bit) manage my entire music library. Being able to transcode my .ogg and .flac music on the fly is also necessary as over half my collection in in these formats.
GTKpod works well, but it cannot remember my entire collection from one run to the next so i continually have to update it's internal library. Also I've never been able to get on the fly conversion working... According to the wiki it's there but theres no other information and the page link is disabled....
Amarok can handle my entire library and syncs with the Ipod, and it does on the fly conversion via transkode with very little setup. But it's a KDE app and I run Gnome so load times are terrible, plus i don't like the idea of keeping half the KDE libraries hanging around for an app that i only use occasionally.
Exaile supposedly can sync with the ipod but all i've been able to get it to do so far is delete tracks from the ipod.... Not to mention auto convert is not present at all.
Any suggestions, or am i stuck with Amarok?
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Have you looked at Banshee, or Rhythmbox?
Taken from Wikipedia | Quote: | Banshee (music player)
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Banshee's main interface
Developed by Aaron Bockover
Initial release 2005-02-17[1]
Stable release 1.0 (2008-06-10) [+/−]
Preview release 1.0 (June 5, 2025) [+/−]
Written in C# (Mono)
OS GNU/Linux, FreeBSD
Available in ?
Genre Audio player
License MIT
Website www.banshee-project.org
Banshee is a free audio player for GNU/Linux operating systems, that is built upon Mono and Gtk#. It uses the GStreamer multimedia platform for encoding, and decoding various music formats, including Ogg Vorbis, MP3 and FLAC. Banshee can play, import, and burn audio CDs, and supports many portable media players, including Apple's iPod and Creative's ZEN players, in the current (May 23, 2025) version. Music stored on the iPod can be played without synchronization, and album art stored in the Banshee library is transferred to the iPod. Support for MTP and PlaysForSure devices, as well as the Rio Karma player is planned for the near future. |
It appears that ipod support for Rhythmbox is still in beta. Seems like Banshee might be your best bet.
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he he he, well, if you guys ever figure out the best alternative, let me know. My son has an ipod, and the best I could find is gtkpod. Here is what is listed in the Arch repositories.
| Code: | [crouse@VistaCrusher ~]$ pacman -Ss ipod
extra/gnupod 0.99.6-2
a collection of Perl-Scripts which allow you to use your iPod under GNU/Linux
extra/gtkpod 0.99.12-1
a platform independent GUI for Apple's iPod using GTK2
extra/ipod-sharp 0.8.0-1
C# bindings for libipoddevice
extra/libgpod 0.6.0-2
libgpod is a shared library to access the contents of an iPod
extra/libipoddevice 0.5.3-1
Provides iPod-specific HAL event notification to applications
extra/podsleuth 0.6.2-2
Tool to discover detailed information about Apple iPods
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:02 am Post subject: |
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Gentoo Portage:
| Code: | dragonfly@Sakura ~ $ emerge -Ss ipod
Searching...
[ Results for search key : ipod ]
[ Applications found : 13 ]
* app-pda/ipodslave
Latest version available: 0.7.3
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 449 kB
Homepage: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kpod
Description: KDE ioslave for managing the Apple iPod
License: GPL-2
* dev-dotnet/ipod-sharp
Latest version available: 0.6.3
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 966 kB
Homepage: http://banshee-project.org/Ipod-sharp
Description: ipod-sharp provides high-level feature support for Apple's iPod and binds libipoddevice.
License: MIT
* media-libs/libipod [ Masked ]
Latest version available: 0.1
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 386 kB
Homepage: http://libipod.sourceforge.net/
Description: lightweight and fast library written in C for managing Apple iPods
License: LGPL-2.1
* media-libs/libipoddevice
Latest version available: 0.5.3
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 349 kB
Homepage: http://banshee-project.org/Libipoddevice
Description: device-specific layer for the Apple iPod
License: LGPL-2
* media-plugins/quodlibet-ipod [ Masked ]
Latest version available: 0.4
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 8 kB
Homepage: http://www.sacredchao.net/quodlibet/wiki/Plugins/iPod
Description: This is a plugin to copy songs to your iPod and browse/delete existing songs using libgpod.
License: GPL-2
* app-pda/dopi [ Masked ]
Latest version available: 0.3.4
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 435 kB
Homepage: http://www.snorp.net/
Description: Dopi is a little application for updating Apple iPod devices
License: GPL-2
* app-pda/gnupod
Latest version available: 0.97
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 144 kB
Homepage: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnupod/
Description: A collection of Perl-scripts for iPod
License: GPL-2
* app-pda/gpixpod [ Masked ]
Latest version available: 0.6.2
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 170 kB
Homepage: http://www.gpixpod.org/
Description: Organize photos on your iPod, freely!
License: GPL-2
* app-pda/gtkpod
Latest version available: 0.99.10
Latest version installed: 0.99.10
Size of files: 1,043 kB
Homepage: http://gtkpod.sourceforge.net/
Description: GUI for iPod using GTK2
License: GPL-2
* dev-dotnet/podsleuth [ Masked ]
Latest version available: 0.6.1
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 132 kB
Homepage: http://banshee-project.org/PodSleuth
Description: a tool to discover detailed model information about an Apple (TM) iPod (TM).
License: MIT
* media-libs/libgpod
Latest version available: 0.6.0
Latest version installed: 0.6.0
Size of files: 823 kB
Homepage: http://www.gtkpod.org/libgpod.html
Description: Shared library to access the contents of an iPod
License: LGPL-2
* media-sound/monopod
Latest version available: 0.6
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 468 kB
Homepage: http://monopod.berlios.de
Description: A very lightweight podcast client with ipod support written in GTK#
License: GPL-2
* x11-themes/tango-icon-theme-extras
Latest version available: 0.1.0-r1
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 223 kB
Homepage: http://tango.freedesktop.org
Description: This is an extension to the Tango Icon Theme. It includes Tango icons for iPod Digital Audio Player (DAP) devices and the Dell Pocket DJ DAP.
License: CCPL-Attribution-ShareAlike-2.5
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a few more ipod apps located in arch's AUR:
| Code: | unsupported multimedia avi2ipod 2.1.3-1 2 Batch or single convert .Avi files to .mp4 donvla
unsupported multimedia avi2ipod-kdemod 2.1.3-1 2 Batch or single convert .Avi files to .mp4 donvla
unsupported multimedia dopi 0.3.4-1 6 A little application for updating Apple iPod devices orphan
unsupported multimedia floola 3.1-1 14 Floola is a freeware application to efficiently manage your iPod tschertel
unsupported multimedia fusepod 0.5.1-1 13 FUSE client for the Apple iPod orphan
unsupported multimedia gpixpod 0.6.2-1 3 pygtk app to manage you photos on your iPod twiistedkaos
unsupported multimedia gtkpod-svn 1723-1 6 a platform independent GUI for Apple's iPod using GTK2 niQo
unsupported multimedia hipo 0.5-1 3 Hipo is an application that allows you to manage the data of your iPod, Hipo is written in C# using Mono, GTK#, the cute ipod-sharp library and for tag editing it uses taglib-sharp. mighelone
unsupported multimedia ipod-convenience 0.9-1 1 Set of scripts for increasing the usability of an iPhone or iPod Touch Mystal
unsupported lib ipod-sharp-svn 76422-1 8 provides high-level feature support for Apple's iPod and binds libipoddevice. ipod-sharp is written in C# under Mono cdude
unsupported multimedia ipodfs 0.5-2 9 A user-space filesystem for accessing iPods using FUSE. Huijari
unsupported kde ipodslave 0.8-1 6 Enables KIO aware apps to access the music stored on an ipod Warc3r
unsupported multimedia ipodtagger 0.0.4-4 2 A Perl script born to tag with lyrics and albumart your songs Cagnulein
unsupported lib libgpod-svn 1736-1 11 libgpod is a shared library to access the contents of an iPod niQo
unsupported lib libipod 0.1-1 4 A library written in C for managing Apple iPods. Includes bindings for C++ and Python. shaynes
unsupported lib libipoddevice-svn 173-1 7 Provides device-level support for Apple's iPods. libipoddevice is written in GObject/C. cdude
unsupported lib libqtpod 0.3-1 5 library for ipodslaves Warc3r
unsupported multimedia podsleuth-svn 53-3 4 Tool to discover detailed information about Apple iPods hyperair
unsupported multimedia pythophotopod 0.3.0-1 1 a GUI for Linux synchronizing photos and photo albums with your iPod with a color display Mr Green
unsupported multimedia qtscrob 0.8-1 3 A tool to upload information about the tracks you have played from your Digital Audio Player (DAP) to your last.fm account. Supports Apple iPods or DAPs running the Rockbox replacement firmware. George_K
unsupported multimedia qtscrob-svn 79-1 3 A tool to upload information about the tracks you have played from your Digital Audio Player (DAP) to your last.fm account. Supports Apple iPods or DAPs running the Rockbox replacement firmware. George_K
unsupported gnome sodipodi 0.34-1 2 Small vector graphic editor, father of Inkscape. T
unsupported multimedia thinliquidfilm 1.00-2 9 Convert video files into a format suitable for playing on the video capable ipods voidnull
unsupported multimedia yamipod 1.7-2 7 Yet another iPod manager. Ghost1227 |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2025 11:32 am Post subject: |
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packages in gentoo portage with the ipod use flag:
| Code: | dragonfly@Sakura ~ $ emerge -s kipi-plugins banshee exaile gpodder listen quodlibet rhythmboxSearching...
[ Results for search key : kipi-plugins ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]
* media-plugins/kipi-plugins
Latest version available: 0.1.4-r1
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 8,329 kB
Homepage: http://www.kipi-plugins.org/
Description: Plugins for the KDE Image Plugin Interface (libkipi).
License: GPL-2
Searching...
[ Results for search key : banshee ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]
* media-sound/banshee
Latest version available: 0.12.1
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 3,009 kB
Homepage: http://banshee-project.org
Description: Import, organize, play, and share your music using a simple and powerful interface.
License: MIT
Searching...
[ Results for search key : exaile ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]
* media-sound/exaile
Latest version available: 0.2.13
Latest version installed: 0.2.13
Size of files: 1,238 kB
Homepage: http://www.exaile.org
Description: a media player aiming to be similar to AmaroK, but for GTK+
License: GPL-2
Searching...
[ Results for search key : gpodder ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]
* media-sound/gpodder
Latest version available: 0.9.5
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 198 kB
Homepage: http://gpodder.berlios.de/
Description: gPodder is a Podcast receiver/catcher written in Python, using GTK.
License: GPL-2
Searching...
[ Results for search key : listen ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]
* media-sound/listen [ Masked ]
Latest version available: 0.5-r1
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 383 kB
Homepage: http://www.listen-project.org
Description: A Music player and management for GNOME
License: GPL-2
Searching...
[ Results for search key : quodlibet ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]
* media-sound/quodlibet [ Masked ]
Latest version available: 1.0
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 602 kB
Homepage: http://www.sacredchao.net/quodlibet/
Description: Quod Libet is a GTK+-based audio player written in Python.
License: GPL-2
Searching...
[ Results for search key : rhythmbox ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]
* media-sound/rhythmbox
Latest version available: 0.10.1-r1
Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
Size of files: 3,328 kB
Homepage: http://www.rhythmbox.org/
Description: Music management and playback software for GNOME
License: GPL-2
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Since we're listing out iPod-related software in our repositories, here's what Debian (Ubuntu) has:
| Quote: | brion@lightyear:~$ apt-cache search ipod
amarok - versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE
kipi-plugins - image manipulation/handling plugins for KIPI aware programs
libgpod-common - a library to read and write songs and artwork to an iPod
libgpod-dev - a library to read and write songs and artwork to an iPod
libgpod-nogtk-dev - a library to read and write songs and artwork to an iPod
libgpod3 - a library to read and write songs and artwork to an iPod
libgpod3-nogtk - a library to read and write songs and artwork to an iPod
python-gpod - a library to read and write songs and artwork to an iPod
banshee - Audio Management and Playback application
exaile - flexible audio player, similar to Amarok, but written in GTK+
gnupod-tools - command-line tools for the iPod family of portable music players
gpixpod - Organize photos on your iPod, freely!
gpodder - A GTK+ Media aggregator and Podcast catcher
gtkpod - manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod
hipo - iPod Management Tool
hpodder - Tool to scan and download podcasts (podcatcher)
ical2sqlite - iPod Touch & iPhone Calendar syncing utility
ipod - tool for retrieving informations from iPods
ipod-convenience - iPod Touch & iPhone sync setup
ipodslave - kio-slave for ipods
ipodslave-dev - devlopment files for ipodslave kio-slave
libipod-cil - CLI library for accessing iPods
libipod-doc - ipod library
libipod0 - ipod library
libipoddevice-dev - library for retrieving informations from iPods
libipoddevice0 - library for retrieving informations from iPods
libipodui-cil - CLI library for accessing iPods (GUI helpers)
monodoc-banshee-manual - Audio Management and Playback application (developer documentation)
monodoc-ipod-manual - compiled XML documentation for ipod-sharp
mythexport - Export MythTV recording to portable media players
podsleuth - Tool to discover detailed information about Apple iPods
python-ipod - ipod library
tripod - iPod photo uploader
vdmfec - recover lost blocks using Forward Error Correction
gtkpod-aac - manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod
rhythmbox - music player and organizer for GNOME
rhythmbox-dbg - debugging symbols for rhythmbox
evolution-plugins-experimental - experimental plugins for Evolution
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I highlighted one that sounds like what you want - Amarok for GTK+ but I've never used it. I use Amarok.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2025 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: Linux and Ipods |
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| Lord.DragonFly.of.Dawn wrote: | | Exaile supposedly can sync with the ipod but all i've been able to get it to do so far is delete tracks from the ipod.... Not to mention auto convert is not present at all. |
Exaile is a pretty sweet media player, but it doesn't do what i need it to...
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For Mandriva (Spring 2025.1 repos folks, not previous, not future):
| Code: | [dedanna@dedanna ~]$ urpmq --sources ipod
---->banshee-ipod
---->ipod-sharp
---->ipod-sharp-doc
---->ipodslave
[dedanna@dedanna ~]$ urpmq --sources mtp
The following packages contain mtp:
---->banshee-mtp
---->libmtp-devel
---->libmtp-doc
---->libmtp-utils
---->libmtp7
---->msmtp
---->mtpfs
---->ssmtp
[dedanna@dedanna ~]$ |
I like Rhythmbox, but prefer Amarok. There is someone at the Mandriva forum who's successfully been able to connect their Sony just using drag and drop with Konqueror. How remains a mystery to this kid.
I do know that even for an ipod, you have to have the MTP libs installed, too, so included the packages for it.
It's still an MTP device, so.
Also wouldn't hurt to check for fuse and dkms packages for mtp or ipod either one.
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One of the major reasons I switched to Gentoo is that I was tired of tracking down dependencies to packages like I had to with Slackware. Add I was rather hesitant to pick a distro that liked to use gui's for configuring EVERYTHING as the ones i have dealt with in the past have a distressing tendencies to wipe out all my custom tweaks....
My parents have mtp based mp3 players that work by putting the files in the appropriate directory and... well thats it really...
I wish the IPOD would work like that...
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| Oops, sorry... I guess I missed that you tried Exaile already.
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