Stani's Python Editor - Fails to load

fopetesl

I have just installed Mandriva 2025 along with wxPython and Stani's Python Editor. When I try to run SPE:

Lord.DragonFly.of.Dawn · Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 1:23 pm Post subject:

Using gentoo the latest version in portage seems to be 0.8.3.c

The URI for the source tarball is here

or you could visit http://pythonide.stani.be/ and use the download links on the righthand side of the page. this will, among other things give you access some RPMs that you can use.

Also I would pay attention to the first warning you recieve regarding wxPython. It seems you have a newer version than spe was expecting and that could be the cause of your problems. try installing the version that spe expects and see if that helps

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fopetesl · Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 2:23 pm Post subject:

As a Newb will this rpm work for Mandriva?
spe-0.8.4.h-0.2.fc8.noarch.rpm
It appears to my uneducated eye that it's for Fedora Core 8(?) and I don't know if there's any (significant) difference between FC8 & Mandriva Confused

Lord.DragonFly.of.Dawn · Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 2:52 pm Post subject:

AFAIK - The biggest difference that could foul you up here is the directory structures.

It all comes down to where Mandriva put certain libraries and executables.

I think the fedora rpm will work without issues, but I cannot guarantee it.

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masinick · Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 2:59 pm Post subject:

VHockey86 · Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 3:20 pm Post subject:

Look at the debug output and figure out why it is failing to launch rather than hunting around for random RPMs.

It doesn't depend on any kind of funky C libraries, its just python code. I'm guessing its a wxpython related problem, but look at the debug output anyways. Quite a bit of junk changed in wxpython 2.6-->2.7 if I recall correctly.

And personally since its just a python app I would simply install it from source and see if that works.
Uninstalling it would be very trivial, everything that its going to install is going to end up in the "site-packages" folder of your python install - its quite self contained.

Something like

/usr/lib/python24/site-packges/spe

is where you'll find everything. The lib path will depend a bit on the distro.

Lord.DragonFly.of.Dawn · Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 3:25 pm Post subject:

fopetesl · Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 3:51 pm Post subject:

VHockey86 · Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 4:03 pm Post subject:

it's definitely a wxpython related problem, but I think its just a bug with SPE and using a newer version of wxpython.

If you look at the end of the code trace, SPE is trying to access "_fileName". Variables prefixed with and underscore in python typically denote a "hidden" variable (its not actually hidden its just a convention).

So in other words. In a latter version of wxPython ( 2.7 or 2.8 ) this variable was renamed/removed/changed and now the SPE code doesn't work. So you basically have 3 options.

a) Unintall wxpython 2.8.x and try to find an RPM for wxpython 2.6.x.
b) Install the latest version of SPE that actually supports wxpython 2.8
c) Fix the SPE code (it would probably be pretty easy to fix that particular error, but chances are you'll run into a lot more)...so not too practical.

That said...WingIDE is better than SPE anyways so you could give that a try as an alternative Smile

VHockey86 · Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 4:08 pm Post subject:

Oh, and to answer your question about uninstalling...

fopetesl · Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 5:27 pm Post subject:

I'll certainly investigate WingIDE. I only arrived at SPE because it looked like an easy (?) entry into wxPython and GUI programming.

I worry about CLI installation not because it's difficult but because
a) it might break something else, libraries, etc.
b) because whenever I've attempted it previously there are always dependencies which, when they're all installed, seem to break something else. urpmi seems to mostly get around that pain.

I'll check it out tomorrow.

And thanks.

VHockey86 · Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 8:37 pm Post subject:

Most python software installed from source only relies on other python libraries being installed.

Sometimes python libraries have C code that would need to link against SO files and stuff in the system - but it definitely wouldn't replace them with different versions. Also I've never ran into a module installed from source that produced any junk outside of the site-packages folder. The distutils package which handles all python module installation is very good about that.

I certainly wouldn't worry about it breaking anything else.

fopetesl · Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2025 10:18 am Post subject: WingIDE?

I had a look at WingIDE and it does seem to be all singing, all dancing except little or no mention of GUI programming. By that I mean it doesn't seem to be geared toward GUI programming.

Purists would say I'm going about it the (easy) wrong way and should hand code everything to keep control but please bear in mind I'm about to tackle several parts of programming I've never seen before.

My other comment is that WingIDE seems a commercial product.
Not that I'm against such but there is a possibility that my project may go commercial in the future and I'm not exactly flushed with cash Sad

I'll persist with SPE for today and if I don't succeed have a trial with WingIDE.

fopetesl · Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2025 2:54 pm Post subject: Getting somewhere??

Well I thought I'd made progress. I can get SPE to run but only if I'm actually in the _spe directory:

Lord.DragonFly.of.Dawn · Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2025 7:22 pm Post subject:

name this script as /usr/local/bin/spe or your favorite name. add execute permissions and try running it from your home directory. Does it work?

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