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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2024 10:23 pm    Post subject: Old Apple Computers Reply with quote

Hello,
I am new to this, so bear with me if this is a dumb question. My school has all Macs running os 9.1. They all crash and are slow, so I thought about turning them into dumb terminals and connecting to a terminal server. Is there an easy way to do this? Or are there tutorials on how to set this up with apple computers. Most are powermacs but some are even older than that. Thanks.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2024 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't a clue, ctollefsen, but welcome to usalug forum anyway Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2024 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ctollefsen, Welcome to USALUG. There are a few here who know about macs and apples, one of whom is mmmna. just hang on and sooner or later one of them will mosey on by and give you an answer. Glad you've come here. By the way, I'm the only one who asks dumb questions, all the rest are good questions .... and yours is a good one! They tell me that the only dumb question is the one that isn't asked (I have a lot of those, I'm just too shy to ask them Laughing) .... that makes sense to me Wink



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2024 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take a look at LTSP

http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/WebHome

I've not used it myself, but I think you would just need to install a lightweight linux distro on the machines (one that supports PPC or whatever architecture those old macs are) and install LTSP clients.

Then of course you need a server w/ the LTSP server installed on it.



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2024 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can Install SuSE Linux 10 and 10.1
http://en.opensuse.org/PPC_Installation_Issues



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2024 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This might help......

http://diet-pc.sourceforge.net/powerpc/



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2024 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ctollefsen wrote:
My school has all Macs running os 9.1. They all crash and are slow, so I thought about turning them into dumb terminals and connecting to a terminal server.

would this be for a project or are you responsible for the school's IT set-up?



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2024 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to USALUG! Smile

There's Yellow Dog linux, which runs on Macs, couple that with the X server and you should be in business.



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2024 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks For all of your help so far. We have an old lab here at the school that teachers and students complain about all the time. Like most schools we have no budget for technology, so we are looking at different options. They also say they want the machines to be more like windows so that students can learn how to use them. I was thinking I could do this as a project with some of the students. I have looked at K12LTSP a little bit, but not much. Apple machines are still a mystery to me, but I am sure I can figure them out with a little help from some others. If you have any more ideas, please let me know. Thanks,

-Charles Tollefsen


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2024 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say that K12LTSP is an AWESOME idea....... that said, i'm SURE that the K12LTSP mailing list would have someone that's already done this and can be of more help than I can with the Apple stuff. I've done it with older ibm pc's, but never messed with Apple at all.



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2024 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can make KDE look a lot like Windows if you like (why you would ever want to is another matter), so the comfort level is going to be there. You can also make it look a lot like a Mac too as far as that goes.

One of the nicest things about linux is that it free. This frees up your school from having to pay Microsoft licensing fees (and they do check schools for proper licensing).

Here's the Microsoft "Education Operating System Licensing Q&A", they don't seem to want to cut schools any slack.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/e/3/4e3eace0-4c6d-4123-9d0c-c80436181742/OSLicQA.doc

One of their most egregious examples of bad policy is their position that you can't take Windows off of a "retired" PC and put it on a new one.

Their position is that the PC and the OS are "married" to one another and does not allow for any transfer of title.



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2024 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Changing OS on a mac is always tricky


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2024 6:10 pm    Post subject: Only tricky if you need to co-exist with another OS Reply with quote

parisfr wrote:
Changing OS on a mac is always tricky


That depends on whether you are attempting to have another OS co-exist with Mac OS, or if you are replacing it. If you are trying to make things co-exist, then you have to be extremely careful. Days or weeks of research in advance are essential, and not every approach will even allow co-existence. I do not have specific experience with this, other than reading and research that I have done over the years.

However, replacing one system with another is not a difficult thing at all, as long as the replacement is something proven to work. There are multiple systems that were built to run on the Power PC architecture. By choosing one of them, there is no reason that you cannot have a successful experience.

Note that since the PPC has not been used in Mac products for a few years, it will be getting increasingly difficult to find any current software for that environment.

Running anything using the original Motorola 68000 series hardware is going to take software that uses 20-25 year old technology, or the equivalent that would fit into really small amounts of memory and use CPU resources extremely effectively. I do not imagine that there are a lot of those kinds of systems even in service any more.

The PPC systems, while less and less frequent, may still be found, and apparently some people still have them around.



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2024 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as LTSP is concerned take a look at this:

http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&q=mac+ppc+ltsp+thin+client&btnG=Search

Hope this helps

Mark


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2024 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP wrote:
Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:23 pm Post subject: Old Apple Computers

Is the OP still active?



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