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crouse
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I'm not 100% sure, but I believe masinick is correct jada, even the wiki says you have to download stuff to make wireless work. From: http://wiki.archlinux.org//Wireless
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First off, make sure you grab wireless-tools from pacman
pacman -S wireless_tools
You cannot initialize wireless hardware without these tools.
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This tells me I have to be connected to a network........ otherwise i can't get wireless to work. Not that I really care one way or the other, but technically, I would say masinick is correct in what he said. Perhaps you mis-interpreted what he was saying, but as far as I can tell -- he is correct. No one here loves Arch more than me (unless perhaps it's you jada), but I don't think we should take issue with absolutely everything said about Arch Linux. I personally don't CARE if Arch can be configured for wireless without a wired network. Not many people would have an issue with that anyhow, most have access to a wired network. I do know it's definitely not worth arguing about.
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masinick
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2025 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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| crouse wrote: | I'm not 100% sure, but I believe masinick is correct jada, even the wiki says you have to download stuff to make wireless work. From: http://wiki.archlinux.org//Wireless
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Installation
First off, make sure you grab wireless-tools from pacman
pacman -S wireless_tools
You cannot initialize wireless hardware without these tools.
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This tells me I have to be connected to a network........ otherwise i can't get wireless to work. Not that I really care one way or the other, but technically, I would say masinick is correct in what he said. Perhaps you mis-interpreted what he was saying, but as far as I can tell -- he is correct. No one here loves Arch more than me (unless perhaps it's you jada), but I don't think we should take issue with absolutely everything said about Arch Linux. I personally don't CARE if Arch can be configured for wireless without a wired network. Not many people would have an issue with that anyhow, most have access to a wired network. I do know it's definitely not worth arguing about. |
Thanks! I believe that Arch is in the midst of revamping their wireless tools, and also adding and modifying documentation. As recently as two weeks ago that was the case as I was researching what to do.
tlmiller set up my D600 laptop for me with Arch, so when I bought it off him it already had most stuff in place. It could be that some upcoming Arch ISO images will have specific wireless packages in place but that wasn't the case, at least at the time that we set up this configuration to the best of my knowledge.
Arch does have some of the best wireless tools and solid documentation on how to set them up, but in typical Arch tradition you are the one who has to do it, they don't have anything set up for you. If that changes, it would seem to be a change in philosophy and direction, and I would be surprised at that.
I've been pretty happy with Arch overall. It is most definitely a different way of doing things and an acquired taste. Hope to work with it a lot more going forward. It is definitely a part of my main set of keepers: MEPIS, sidux, Arch. I generally have other systems around too, but those will likely remain the trilogy for some time as my base systems. |
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JP
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| Since the topic here is wireless, I have a question about that. where can I find a good, down-to-earth explanation of the wireless setups explaining WEP. WPA, and anthing else pertinent to wireless. I'm not looking for a tutorial, just some good documentation that doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand it. THX
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| Dave, I used the latest testing ISO and it is supported. I even was talking with Tobias few days ago, if MadWifi 0.9.4 will make it in the soon 2025.2 release how is under heavy development. |
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Thanks Masinick ... I'll have to find out if our Linksys is WEP or WPA, but first I wanted to understand what this stuff was all about  . |
I am using the knetworkmanager and everytime when I change the Wireless Network they ask me for a key. It detects by them self if it is WEP or WPA/2 network and the network name, us long it is not hidden
There is also a another tool called "air*..." what help you easy to get the WEP keys from the network via command line. This tool is very helpfull if you didn't safe the keys from all your networks  |
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