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tlmiller
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| I go to work, home, and various friends houses. It's not a big deal to remember the password, it's just a hassle. KDE 3 offers me freedom from that hassle. I wouldn't downgrade to a WM/DE that doesn't offer me that same freedom. Same as I switched to linux to free myself of the hassle of windows licenses, bsods, and such hassles.
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masinick
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 2:05 am Post subject: |
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| tlmiller wrote: | | I go to work, home, and various friends houses. It's not a big deal to remember the password, it's just a hassle. KDE 3 offers me freedom from that hassle. I wouldn't downgrade to a WM/DE that doesn't offer me that same freedom. Same as I switched to linux to free myself of the hassle of windows licenses, bsods, and such hassles. |
I still don't understand, though. What is the password for, the protected interface at home? Are you saying that kdenetworkmanager can remember past passwords when you go out, connect to some roaming link, then come back home to the usual spot, or is there something else that I am missing?
Say I go out to the laundry, like I was doing before I bought my washing machine and dryer. When I'd go out, I could get a free access point. Maybe I am not remembering. When I'd go away, I'd connect to something like South End Laundry, then when I'd come back, I'd connect to my WPA-PSK. Have not done that in a while, but at least I *thought* that I entered my password again. I will acknowledge that with ceni you have to put the password in every time. Are you saying that with kdenetworkmanager that is not the case? Maybe I need to use it more. |
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tlmiller
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 9:10 am Post subject: |
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| OH, the password for gnome-keyring or kwallet. gnome-keyring always pops up requesting it's own password, you can tell kwallet not to. With knetworkmanager, if I've set up an access point previously, and told kwallet never to bother me for the password, it connects to the wireless network automatically without my having to input passwords. so I go over my sisters, it automatically connects to ap "nutjob". At home, it automatically connects to ap "godshome". At my friends house, it automatically connects to whatever his ap is called again. No intervention on my part required after the first setup of the ap.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| tlmiller wrote: | | OH, the password for gnome-keyring or kwallet. gnome-keyring always pops up requesting it's own password, you can tell kwallet not to. With knetworkmanager, if I've set up an access point previously, and told kwallet never to bother me for the password, it connects to the wireless network automatically without my having to input passwords. so I go over my sisters, it automatically connects to ap "nutjob". At home, it automatically connects to ap "godshome". At my friends house, it automatically connects to whatever his ap is called again. No intervention on my part required after the first setup of the ap. |
OK, NOW I understand! That part was not coming through before! So with KDE, it is the kwallet feature of offering to fill in passwords after having been PREVIOUSLY authenticated, and that is the feature you do not get if you do not use a fully functioning desktop manager with a password retaining app or applet. Got it. I rarely use GNOME so I do not remember much about the gnome-keyring, but I think I have seen it before. Kwallet, though, I have used often, so I understand what you are talking about now. Just was not able to make the connection previously. Now the mud has cleared off the windows and I can see again!  |
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Lord.DragonFly.of.Dawn
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2025 3:36 am Post subject: |
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You can change gnome-keyring to never ask you for your password.
Simply open the configuration thingie ( System> Preferences > Encryption and Keyrings [gnome 2.22.2]) and set it to store everything in the login keyring (which is unlocked on login and does not lock again until you log out.)
Then you just have to imput your passwords once, and them it takes care of the rest. Much like kwallet!
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| Yeah, I know it's supposed to work like that, but I've never gotten it too...it still asks me for them every time. At least it always did in Fedora.
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| hmm... odd.
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| Yes it is. Although, as I said earlier, it's also been a while since I've tried it in gnome (Fedora 7 to be exact), so it very well might be fixed by now.
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| It certainly works for me, so if you have the time you may try it again. could be fixed nows.
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