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tlmiller
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 Posted: Wed May 19, 2025 1:29 am Post subject: KDE 4.4 hits Debian Squeeze |
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| For anyone interested, I just started an upgrade on Squeeze, and KDE is set to be upgraded to 4.4...
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2025 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Debian Sid has had KDE SC 4.4.3, and just this week, KDE SC 4.4.4 programs are filtering in. Hopefully these will make it into Debian Squeeze before long. I would love to see either KDE SC 4.4.4 or KDE SC 4.5 in Debian Squeeze, depending on how soon they actually move toward a release. |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2025 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Well, Squeeze has been testing since February of 09, so waiting a bit longer wouldn't hurt...
Course, soon as Squeeze is released, I'll probably move on to whatever will be the NEXT testing...
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| Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2025 2:29 am Post subject: |
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| tlmiller wrote: | Well, Squeeze has been testing since February of 09, so waiting a bit longer wouldn't hurt...
Course, soon as Squeeze is released, I'll probably move on to whatever will be the NEXT testing... |
Well, when that happens, I'd wait maybe a month before "moving over". Testing can be as volatile or even more volatile than Sid when moving to the NEXT release.
Course, as long as the stuff is working in Sid that might not be such a bad thing. |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2025 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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| KDE 4.4.4 is now in Squeeze.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2025 3:04 am Post subject: |
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| tlmiller wrote: | | KDE 4.4.4 is now in Squeeze. |
Cool! Did you know that KDE SC 4.5 is now at Beta 2 in the development? |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2025 9:13 am Post subject: |
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| I did not, hadn't heard a thing about 4.5 thus far.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2025 4:17 pm Post subject: You won't see a KDE Beta test in Testing or Sid |
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| tlmiller wrote: | | I did not, hadn't heard a thing about 4.5 thus far. |
Of course, we won't see a Beta test version of KDE in Debian, unless we go out far and wide and someone offers their own repository. In Sid, you get two updates per release - if you are lucky. Testing inherits whatever passes cleanly through Sid. There is an outside, but unlikely chance that a Beta test will go through Experimental, but I've not seen one yet. The most I saw in Experimental were a few KDE package builds that were held up from going into Sid when one of the Sid to Testing transitions was taking place.
Mandriva Cooker and openSUSE are good places to find test versions of KDE, if you are ever so inclined. I test the Cooker every now and then, but I've not done openSUSE in a while. It's just too different from what I am used to and I've had too many issues with it when I have experimented with it. Certainly good stuff, just not for me. The Cooker is every bit as volatile, if not more so, but I'm more used to it, so I experiment with it maybe once a month. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2025 2:49 am Post subject: |
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| tlmiller wrote: | | KDE 4.4.4 is now in Squeeze. |
Yup, I just added KDE SC 4.4.4 to antiX, a Debian Testing based distribution, and I am using it right now. I also added Mozilla Prism, and I added GMail, Yahoo Mail, and USALUG to the Prism apps, which I put in the KDE Desktop folder.
Pretty handy, and KDE SC 4.4.4 is working well on here already. |
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Only thing I don't like is that it installs the kde-standard package, which gets network-manager (which I've never gotten to work outside of Ubuntu, however didn't even try since everything already worked with wicd) and korganizer, so requires lots of apt-get removing after installing to get my system back the way I like.
And I have yet to figure out how to shut up the update daemon from popping up notifications every 20 seconds that there are "x" updates available.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2025 4:04 pm Post subject: Try replacing metapackage with one of these alternatives |
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| tlmiller wrote: | Only thing I don't like is that it installs the kde-standard package, which gets network-manager (which I've never gotten to work outside of Ubuntu, however didn't even try since everything already worked with wicd) and korganizer, so requires lots of apt-get removing after installing to get my system back the way I like.
And I have yet to figure out how to shut up the update daemon from popping up notifications every 20 seconds that there are "x" updates available. |
Which distribution installs the kde-standard package?
I know it can be somewhat time consuming, but I've practically reinstalled all of KDE more than once in the Mandriva Cooker, because over time, especially in test release systems like the Cooker, stuff can get easily messed up. In the Cooker, some of the Meta Packages bring in WAY too much also. I take care of that.
Just by installing a few simple things, such as kdebase, konqueror, konsole, k3b, and anything else I want, I get what I want. I don't have to use some big meta package. However, I do believe that some KDE packaging systems - possibly Debian - I am not looking at it right now - have a kde-minimal metapackage; if so, perhaps using that instead of kde-standard (maybe remove kde-standard and add kde-minimal) you will get closer to what you want. I can easily do stuff like that with antiX, especially with smxi included, which has a "smaller" idea of what makes a good KDE setup than some of the other alternatives. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2025 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| kde-standard is new for kde 4.4.4 as far as I can tell, since I've never installed it. It's uninstalled now, since it requires network-manager, and that's one piece of software that I don't attempt to use because of all the bugs.
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I happen to be using Kubuntu 10.04, which has a reasonable KDE environment, but it's getting OLD already! It's KDE 4.4.2! I am putting some Prism stuff on it, though, and though some people have complained about it, I've actually found it to be a solid, vanilla KDE implementation that has proven to be easy to handle, and I think that I like the KPackagekit better than the standard Ubuntu upgrading tool (but of course I can use the manual apt-get stuff too).
As for Squeeze, I've not run a straight Squeeze recently, but antiX has allowed me to track Squeeze changes fairly closely, including the KDE SC 4.4.4 update that I did last night. |
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