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nice reminder, stonecarver.
Too bad these really helpful tips get so buried in the documentation stuff. Seems to be a big "how to's" gap between shell commands and the GUI's capabilities for similar tasks.
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| been playing with this, stonecarver, and this is a big help for trying to keep things in "user" mode but actually getting some system work done. I hate to log out ,then in as root, for simple stuff.
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| You must have a root password in order to use kdesu -- unless they've changed it some time in the last year or two.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2025 4:11 pm Post subject: kdesu (for LDE) and sudo for command line interface |
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| stonecarver wrote: | mr_ed,
yup it goes to password prompt as soon as you hit enter.
With root login no longer in many distro's kdesu has been a lifesaver.  |
Both sudo and kdesu perform similar functions. You use sudo from a command line interface (CLI) and you specify sudo followed by the command. The first time you run the command you are prompted for the root password. Subsequent requests during your login are performed without having to repeat the root password, unless you logout or unless you exceed a timer (varies by distribution, depending how it is configured).
With kdesu, a popup password prompt appears. When you use a graphical user interface (GUI) there is a context associated with the interface. Unless explicitly given access, no other account can display output on your interface. Root is a different account. Kdesu is the mechanism to grant that access. Once that access is granted, it behaves like sudo in a graphical context. The reason you need root access, of course, is to install or maintain software at the system level. |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2025 1:01 am Post subject: Thanks |
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| stonecarver wrote: | ksysgaurd - is another cool kdesu option great for adept freeze ups 
Masinick,
Very nice understandable comparison of sudo and kdseu. |
Thanks. I tried to write that with the idea that we may have some beginners reading it at some point in time. |
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I cannot access Konqueror from the shell. Get a "kdesu: cannot connect to X server" block. ?? Tried as user and root.
The "run" KDE window is where I get the kdesu konqueror to work fine. A quick press of ALT+F2 opens the "run" if you don't want to wait for the menu.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2025 7:15 pm Post subject: If you run as root, you lock out apps |
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| Pet3M0ss wrote: | I cannot access Konqueror from the shell. Get a "kdesu: cannot connect to X server" block. ?? Tried as user and root.
The "run" KDE window is where I get the kdesu konqueror to work fine. A quick press of ALT+F2 opens the "run" if you don't want to wait for the menu. |
If you run one or more apps as root without using kdesu for KDE or gtksu for GTK/GNOME apps, you will get this situation. Logout and login to correct it.
IF something is STILL wrong, then you have file or directory protection or ownership issues. |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2025 12:22 am Post subject: Only on TEST systems |
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That is a risky way to go, but if you do not mind the potential of trashing your system and having to reinstall, why not?
I do both. In my stable OS, I just run it and do not experiment too much. In my test distros I TRY to break them and do all kinds of dastardly things. (How about sudo rm -rf /)? Mu ah ha ha! |
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